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Islam – Religion of Peace

Afghan Women and the Return of the Taliban (July 29, 2010) :

The commander gave his verdict, and men moved in to deliver the punishment. Aisha’s brother-in-law held her down while her husband pulled out a knife. First he sliced off her ears. Then he started on her nose. Aisha passed out from the pain but awoke soon after, choking on her own blood. The men had left her on the mountainside to die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Teenager was attacked by six Muslim males, on her way to a Christian school with three of her girlfriends. One managed to escape…the other two teenagers were also beheaded.

Islam – Religion of Peace and Female Circumcision

As the midwife slices off part of Sheelan’s genitals, the girl lets out a high-pitched wail heard throughout the neighborhood.

 

Zahida Perveen’s Muslim husband gouged out both of her eyes, cut off both of her ears, cut her nose off, and then cut out her tongue. (Note: She is alive.)

 

 

 Nick Berg being beheaded.

 

 

 

 

Muslim holds up Nick Berg’s head.

 

 

    Prepped for a Stoning

 

 

 Stoning in progress, and final results.

Two Afghan Women before being shot by the Taliban.

Two Afghan Women after being shot by the Taliban.


Islam - Religion Of Peace

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  1. Araceli said, on April 19, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    ALL THIS IS ONLY LIES, MUSLIMS CAN NOT DO THIS KIND OF THINGS.

    ISLAM IS PACE, RESPECT, AND TRUE

    MAYBE YOU DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THAT.

    BUT ALLAH THE ONLY GOD, KNOWS THE TRUE.

  2. Karmi said, on April 19, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Yeah…right, Araceli. Tell that to the women and children and Nick Berg pictured above. Tell that to any female living in 99.999% of the Muslim countries.

  3. christine said, on April 29, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    That stuff is crap! Extremists.. and culture is not ISLAM. I have never heard or females having to be circumcised, that is culture.. NOT ISLAM! Have you all forgot Hitler the Catholic (Only after Hitler was dead and out of power did his Roman Catholic Church disown him) and Timothy McVeigh the Christian.. other faiths such as Christianity and even christianity in 3rd world countries do cruel things as well.. and it cultural not a representation of the faith.

  4. Karmi said, on April 30, 2009 at 1:17 am

    All I hear from Muslims is a lot of weak excuses and strong denials, Christine. Do you know Ayaan Hirsi Ali? If so, then give her a call and ask her about Female genital cutting (FGC), also known as female genital mutilation (FGM), female circumcision or female genital mutilation/cutting (FGM/C).

  5. progenies said, on June 6, 2009 at 3:00 am

    Thanks Karmi– this is the reality of Islam– more Americans need to wake up to the facts of this horrifying, violent, satanic religion!!! You’re Awesome!

  6. unknown said, on June 12, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    okay firstly. almost non off this is alowed!! who ever cuts a womans genitals and say it is in Islam the Asthugfirullah!! that is not true! They are darkening Islams image!! That has no place in islam! (maybe she is giving birth?? i don’t know maybe not)
    if it is what the subtitles say than that is not Islam it is insanity

    The Cristan beheading!? That is not right either! Who ever does this in the name of
    Islam, or in the name of Allah will be servearly punished by Allah

    And the whole nick burk thing iv never heard of that before. Anyone ever heard of Gimp croping?? And if that is true than those people are terrorists. . . And Islam has no place for them. The call themselves Muslims but are they really. They say they are fighting a Jihad! Did Hazrat Ali fight like that no!! Did Muhammad S.A.W. No!! So that is no jihad!!

    Being stoned is in Islam but there are very strict rules on it. It is that is a man n woman have sex on purpose no one is being forced before marrage than you be stoned. . .
    And before that their must be a strict and fair trail. If some one gets raped than in Islam there is no punishment for that!! If someone does get punished because they get raped than that is not Islamic. The person who does that will be punished if not in life than in their grave. . .

  7. sarah said, on June 13, 2009 at 4:06 am

    okay. this might be true. but that does NOT mean that islam is bad. it’s just a handful of people who do this sort of thing. not everyone is like that.
    and the fact that those handful of people who happen to do all this are muslims has got NOTHING to do with Islam.
    there are loads of cases about such things. some of them are done by hindus. does that make hindu a ‘satanic’ religion? certainly not!
    you’re just picking a handfull of things done by muslims and saying that islam is bad.
    why don’t you look for the same sort of incidents done by ppl of other faiths?i’m sure you’ll find many.
    this is like so dumb.

    you’re judging a whole religion based on the actions of a truckload of lunatics. why don’t you see other muslims?? is EACH and EVERY muslim a terrorist? No, they’re not.

    it’s like saying ‘all the apples in the world are bad’ just because one apple of a particular tree happens to be so.

  8. Karmi said, on June 13, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Hey, Sarah & Unknown, dig this latest news about muslims: Christian Man Raped, Murdered for Refusing to Convert to IslamA young Christian man was raped and brutally murdered in Pakistan for refusing to convert to Islam, and police are doing nothing about it … “They have sexually abuse him, torture him with a knife on his testicle and genitals,” Ghauri’s brother, 24-year-old Salman Nabil Ghauri, said. “They have tortured him very badly, and after that they have stabbed five times with a knife and killed him.”

    So, men raping men is OK in Islam. Are such acts unusual under Islam? Apparently not – “Yet human rights watchdog groups say that what happened to Litto Ghauri is not uncommon because Christians in Pakistan are looked upon as the dregs of society.

    Let me run a quick search…yes, here’s another example of what Islam is about: Saudi pledges to ease controls on womenSaudi Arabia has pledged to take steps toward removing rules requiring a woman to have a male guardian at all times… Forced to wear a bag (AKA Burka) that covers everything but the eyes, and maybe hands. Islam doesn’t have a good record towards women, huh.

    There’s plenty more examples of what Islam is actually about. Heck, just check the daily newspaper of any country in the world, and you will find more atrocities being committed in the name of Islam. Islam is by far the worse of the top 3 Abrahamic Religions…

  9. Realist said, on June 25, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Biased and one-sided article. Can the objective truth be revealed in a few pictures ? Of course not.
    The mischievous attempts of whoever-made-this-topic can be trashed instantly with “pictures of their own kind” from Gujarat 2002 riots, or the attacks on Christians in Orissa, all by Hindutva extremists. ;-)

  10. Karmi said, on June 26, 2009 at 7:33 am

    Get your head out of the sand, and get real, Realist.

    I have presented but a few examples of what Islam is about; however, run a search any day of the year, and you can find many new examples of Islam’s atrocities.

    Your attempt here to “defend” Islam – which is indefensible, as all evidence shows – is a joke. Yes, Hindutva extremists have done some horrible crimes, but they pale in comparison to the ever-growing ‘MOUNTAIN’ of crimes and atrocities committed daily by the followers of Islam.

  11. Realist said, on June 26, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    >>>>>Quote “I have presented but a few examples of what Islam is about; ”

    False. These pictures are not what Islam is about. Crimes by the so-called followers of any religion isn’t what the religion actually is about. One exception is those pictures about stoning, which by the way is only in extreme cases, no where near an every day occurrence.

    >>>>>Quote “however, run a search any day of the year, and you can find many new examples of Islam’s atrocities.”

    Ok, bring me the complete list of all crimes & atrocities committed by “Islam” today i.e. June 26, 2009. ;-)

  12. Realist said, on June 26, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    Oh, and by the way, despite your attempts to vilify Islam as a means to glorify your personal religion/culture system, I cannot stoop to the same level, so let me say a few words about the contribution of Islam to the world –

    Islam eliminated racism more than 1000 years before the “civilized” world managed to. Islam is open to all comers, doesn’t distinguish between a king and a pauper. Dishonesty, treachery and hypocrisy are serious sins in Islam whether a Muslim is guilty of it or a non-Muslim. Much to some people’s anguish, Islam is a straight-forward, honest religion.

    Islam empowered women with property and inheritance rights – unheard of in the rest of the world at the time.

    The contribution of Muslims in the field of science, astronomy, art, architecture, literature and several other fields is absolutely immeasurable.

    Instead of nurturing hatred against Islam and Muslims out of personal bias, you would do well to read the works of neutral scholars about the contribution and history of Islam. Montgomery Watt or Karen Armstrong, among others – both of them non-Muslims.

  13. Karmi said, on June 26, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Realist, I’m not going to hold your hand for you, so run your own search. E.g. just type in “Islam” and you get a new list of atrocities for each day. Muslims are always trying to establish Islam’s ownership of ‘god’as if GOD could actually be owned – in order to force their own views upon others. Islam is a false religion…simple as that.

    Islam treats women like chattel…and worse, e.g. honor killings, full body bags called burqas and or niqabs, etc.

    Islam taught Africans how to make money with slavery – see my Page on the Arab-Islam Slave Trade – and slavery continues to this day under Islam.

    You also need a new history book…

  14. Karmi said, on July 11, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Realist,

    I deleted that last reply of yours … next time I’ll ban you. Watch your foul mouth…

  15. Anon Muslim said, on July 20, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Most well meaning lefties are sadly misinformed, or should I say dangerously misinformed. They are sucked in to fallacy that Islam actually is a religion of peace and the Muslim apologists have known this all along. They use the left’s Liberal attitude against them, deception is a legitimate weapon of jihad and Muslims have been using it for centuries. The web and libraries are full of information about Islam, the so called prophet, the Qur’an and Hadith’s. I suggest that anyone who is interested in their immediate future and the future of their children direct their attention to these sources of information and wise up, before it’s too late.
    Well done Karmi, keep up the good work.

  16. godless said, on July 20, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    So you don’t understand the civilized way of talking and ‘thinking’ my templar friend ?
    This world will never forget executions of innocent muslims in Jerusalem and Acre by your holy crusaders centuries ago! There is not any difference in your heart.
    Slavery of black people, genocide of Jews… Are you a postman of Justice in this world? Is this why you killed, tortured, raped innocent people of Iraq a few years ago? No, you are not different from those ‘Muslim’ killers on these pictures. you choose to HATE against to understand. Jesus would be ashamed of such hatred in a Christian’s heart, a worship of God.
    You deleted our posts and banned us, two teenager girls! We pity you.
    What does it matter? God know us well enough. I hope ALLAH will mercy on you brother!.

  17. Karmi said, on July 20, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    godless,

    “centuries ago!” should’ve been a clue for you, godless. In this current era – e.g. 1992 thru 2009 – Muslims are still slaughtering innocent humans, enslaving innocent humans, and treating women as nothing more than chattel.

    “Slavery”?!? Muslims should speak of slavery. Arab-Islam Slave Trade.

    BTW, I am not a Christian and do not support any of the Abrahamic Religions. All come from the ancient religions of Sumer and Egypt…

    There were 3 or 4 so-called “teenager girls!” with the same email address…

  18. godless said, on July 20, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    I am really puzzled about you didn’t believe that we are just teenagers, but we are. Maybe you think Muslim teenager girls can’t think like this but we do. It is true.
    I think our words are simply enough but I just want to add a little thing, then I will leave this conversation. This is one of my favourite from Qur’an:
    A’RAF sura 179. verse: “…they have hearts but they don’t understand, they have eyes but they don’t see, they have ears but they don’t hear…”
    And what can I say more. Let there be peace in your heart and your soul. Try to see the world and people from the sky not from the earth. May Allah be with you brother…

  19. godless said, on July 20, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    …and don’t delete my posts so that people can read them(:

  20. Karmi said, on July 20, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    godless wrote: “I am really puzzled about you didn’t believe that we are just teenagers, but we are. Maybe you think Muslim teenager girls can’t think like this but we do. It is true.”

    Muslim men like to keep their women in burlap body-bags (AKA Burqas), and even like to pretend that they (the men) are “women” at times by wearing their womenfolk’s Burqas…cross dressing I think it is called. Yasser Arafat use to wear Burqas a lot, and even Saddam wore them a few times.

    Basically, I think you are muslim men who wear Burqas on the internet whilst pretending to be teenage girls…

  21. godless said, on July 20, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    fjdkfkfksjdjfjkd:D This is really great!:D What should I do to make you believe myself?:D Please tell me were my words wrong?! Why did you delete them? Let’s say I am a muslim man, but you KNOW my words are true.
    Come to Turkey, I promise I will show you Istanbul myself! I will take you to my school. Dude OMG! I AM A GIRL!!!:D I have never enjoyed this much ever! I will tell everything my mom tomorrow:D
    You are funny honey really:D You read things, watch TV and then make this page and you can’t even answer my questions:D What can I really say?!!!!
    Hey people out there! Reading this, I invite you all to Turkey:D then you can decide who ıs true? Me or that – EDIT by Blog Owner – ? :D kfkgkldfl LoL
    As I said before
    Allah sana akıl fikir versin gerzek!!:D

  22. Karmi said, on July 20, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Turkey is a great country, but they have too many radical muslims running around free. Thanks for the invite to Istanbul, but I’ll pass, since I don’t want to end up ‘starring’ in a muslim video like Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg did…

  23. Karmi said, on July 22, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    NOTE: In reference to an above point about muslim men “wearing their womenfolk’s Burqas,” here’s another story – Disguised Taliban hit Afghan bases:

    Taliban fighters, most of them disguised in women’s burqas, have killed six people in attacks on government buildings and a military base in Afghanistan…

  24. nino said, on September 12, 2009 at 9:35 am

    female circumcision is not part of the quran it is only cultural… so not islam!

  25. Karmi said, on September 13, 2009 at 5:36 am

    nino,

    Don’t tell me. Tell that to Sheelan and the “over 2 million” other Muslim girls that have the procedure (FGM – female genital mutilation) done to them every year…in the name of Islam.

  26. Mrfix said, on October 29, 2009 at 10:06 am

    Karmi
    I’ve been fighting Female circumcision since 1994, from my studies, the most people who circumcised their girls are Hindu Indians. Pakistan and Bangladesh Muslim countries who separated from India don’t have female circumcision.
    Not all Muslim countries practice it , and this what proves it is not Islamic. Muslim countries who do it for example. Egypt, both (Christians and Muslims) do it. Same with Sudan (Ancient tribal religion, Christians and Muslims) the same goes with the other 26 African countries who do it and the rest of Asia.
    Female circumcision is an Ancient Egyptian habit, which was common in particular in the age of Ramses, more than 1000 years before Christ. It was introduced into the Sudan with the Egyptian conquests of the Nuba country. The kings of Nuba in turn conquered Egypt, and the custom of infibulations spread throughout the Nile Valley.
    The custom obviously does not exist in other countries. Female circumcision, whether in the form of infibulations or any other form, is not known at all in the countries of north-west Africa, the countries of Greater Syria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, or Yemen which are Muslim don’t have it.
    As for the 2 million girls who get circumcised, yearly not all are Muslims.
    Last but not least I guess the internet declared war on Islam trying to drive people away especially that more and more Americans and Europeans are becoming Muslim, when they read about the right Islam.

  27. Karmi said, on October 29, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Mrfix,

    Female genital mutiliation and other harmful practices … note that India isn’t mentioned but Yemen is.

    Hard to know what actually happens to most women in muslim countries, since they are usually kept hidden in some sort of body-bag called Burqas. Even if their genitals avoid mutilations, life has to suck in a body-bag.

    Facts are that Muslim women throughout the Muslim world are treated worse than chattel (slaves, cattle, etc)…

    Here’s more: Where is FGC practiced?FGC is practiced predominantly in 28 countries in Africa. Eighteen African countries have prevalence rates of 50 percent or higher, but these estimates vary from country to country and within various ethnic groups. FGC also occurs in some Middle Eastern countries-Egypt, the Republic of Yemen, Oman, Saudi Arabia and Israel-and is found in some Muslim groups in Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan and India. Some immigrants practice various forms of FGC in other parts of the world, including Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United States and in European nations.

  28. convert said, on November 9, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Karmi,
    it doesnt really matter how much u try to run down islam or say what people do in the name of islam…. Islam will prevail… just look at the statistic’s how many Western women are converting to islam each year!!! thousands!! So we can tell that there is no such rubbish allowed in islam as u say. if there was no1 especilly not women would convert to a religion that has bad practices in it. as people have said b4 its just the silly culture of some people, so why dont you get over youself and stop trying to attach things to islam bcoz u aint gonna stop people converting bcoz islam is the truth and people aways find out the truth in the end!

  29. Ness said, on March 3, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    That is.. really disturbing.

  30. Megan said, on March 3, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    People, you can all bitch that this isn’t Islam, but yeah it is.
    And, I’m not one to exclude: This is religion.
    Let’s not forget every other group does shit like this.
    And they all practice “peace”.
    There is no peace achieved through religion, only intolerance and hate.

    BTW:
    @godless, if you’re posting for religion, why the fuck is your name “godless”? Really.

    @convert: Thousands of Western women aren’t converting to Islam (DEFINITELY NOT IN EUROPE). You’re stats are so far off. More and more people are using their brains and “converting” to Atheism (though I wouldn’t use converting, just opening there eyes to the blind leading of religion). I can only guess that all religion will somehow be wiped out in the next few hundred years, though let’s hope for sooner.
    The world will probably actually achieve “peace”.

    One last thing to everyone aside from Karmi, Mrfix: Take an English class. You’re butchering every word you write, it’s really sad. I couldn’t even read half the shit you posted.

    Sigh. Religion.

  31. Tim said, on April 14, 2010 at 3:23 am

    I belive you godless :) I believe there are good AND bad Christains, Muslims, athiests, whatever… So many people these days are so sure to jump to the conclusion that they are right about the way they view the world. Jews Christains Muslims atheists whatever you cannot put all people of one denomination in a box. You can’t say all of one group is better smarter less violent or whatever all groups have their downfall. All groups of people have people of all differet varieties smart dumb ignorant open peacable and or violent. And yes every religion has it’s rational people as well as extremist groups you cannot attibute all these pictures to one religion. I personally know an American Muslim girl an she is the sweetest. Anyways just my two cents we need to look at the world with a more critical and skeptical eye. It is a beautiful world filled with many beautiful people and unfortunatley a few people can ruin by doing those things documented above but we can’t take everything we see at face value.
    -Tim, USAF

  32. Karmi said, on April 14, 2010 at 6:58 am

    Tim wrote: “..you cannot attibute all these pictures to one religion.”

    All the above pictures are about Islam’s violence. I’ve heard of some beheadings in Mexico, in the Drug War, but all the rest seem to be done by followers of Islam. Women under Islam are – AT BEST – second-class citizens under Islam, and in many cases are nothing more than chattel.

  33. Tim said, on April 14, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    Well IMHO they are all the result of some assholes who happen to be part of extremist sub-groups of Islam. But you cannot say these pictures are the goal of every living Muslim,that would be just ignorant. It is not a fundamental part of their religion. Different sub-sectors of Islam all interpret the Qur’an differently. To attribute all these acts to a specific Religion alone and take no other factors into account? It would be like saying all Christians at the time supported the Crusades, or that all Atheists cheered on the anti-religious targeting during the Columbine shootings. There are certain socio-economic factors that play into terrorism and extreme crimes such as displayed above. Much of it has to do with whatever law infrastructure is in place, and a lot of it has to do with poverty and other factors that induce crime. The fact that richer western countries might be pre-dominantly Christian/Atheist and that some of the third-world-conflict countries in today’s spotlight are Islam is just the way things worked out. IMO its the environment not the specific religion. What about the Lord’s Resistance Army in Uganda? Their acts certainly do not fall under the jurisdiction of Allah.

    Also, @Megan. If you hope to “enlighten” any religious people on what you believe is to be the truth, using condescending statements and insulting their intelligence won’t work. It kind-of just makes you look like an arrogant asshole who thinks they are smarter than everyone just because they don’t believe in intelligent design. People are entitled to think what they want to think. I’m not judging you and I’m sure your a great person otherwise, and very intelligent, but attacks in that tone just really don’t come off very nice. It really rubbed me the wrong way and ticked me off a bit.

    Anyways thats just my two cents, I’m hoping not to offend anyone in the process. Internet debates are…. touchy.

    I’d recommend reading the book, “The Forever War” by Filkins for a deeper insight into the motivations of such actions displayed above. Yes, many motivations have to do with Islam, but its a lot more complicated than what you might think. Filkins is a journalist who spent several years embedded in the Middle East, a very well-respected expert on the area and its conflicts. If you have an earnest interest to learn more, you owe it to yourself to read this. And no it is not a reflection of the opinions I have just typed it simply tells of his experiences and I have so far found it to be very unbiased with no hidden agendas.

  34. david said, on April 15, 2010 at 2:27 am

    I am penticostal and jesus christ is returning because the father god abba gave the son the keys to heven earth and hell and the right to judge the world and rule for one thousand years with an iron septer in pease lord of lords king of kings jesus will judge because he died was crusified and his blood was shed to save all siners because the father so loved the world he gave his only beggoten son that man should not perish but have eternal life jesus christ is our savior and he writes our name in the lambs book of life. Jesus christ will return soon next 50 yrs tops and defeat the anti christ the false prophet and the dragon satan shall be bound one thousand years and then satan will be losed a short time and then god muslim christian and jew this same god will defeat satan and their will be the final judgment. the first shall be last and the last first and a day to the lord is like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day. holy spirit peace to you all im filled with the holy ghost believe in the father son and holy ghost
    and I humble servant of the lord say in the name of JESUS CHRIST SAY repent believe
    and be saved for jesus is the only means by which we can be saved and any other way is of that old serpent satan and is a lie. Finaly salvation is all we need worry about for the lord said there would be a falling away and many great evils shall befall this world yet i come like thief in the nite so be ready for no man nor the lord knows that hour save god himself please the time is near very close knok and the door shall be opened jesus saves and forgives and will never forsake us. charitytlb@cableone.net men not god and false religion are corrupt this will be put right every one will kneel down every head bow and confess god is god and we all shall be judged jesus the lord god he knows every hair on your head and he cares so what ever you believe in god doesnt
    exsist in islam christians the trinity or the hebrew faiths more or less but is the same god in all so we must stop this female mutilation suicide and all evil were and when we see it and pray and mos important love one another. +++!_holy holy holy

  35. Karmi said, on April 15, 2010 at 10:04 am

    Tim,

    Violence under Islam is not the exception to the “Rule,” so your “extremist sub-groups of Islam” does not address the fact. Violence and control is a mainstay of the Koran/Qur’an, i.e. written in its own words. The Abrahamic Religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are a plagiarized hoax, built upon the ancient religions of Sumer and Egypt (Sumerian god Enki and Egyptian god Ptah, primarily). In the modern era, there is no doubt that Islam is the most violent of the three…

  36. Tim said, on April 15, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Karmi,
    You said, “Violence under Islam is not the exception to the ‘Rule,’ so your ‘extremist sub-groups of Islam’ does not address the fact.”

    What fact? You simply stated something you believed to be true. Please, I would like to learn more of Islamic religion, but I have yet to obtain a copy of the Qur’an myself. Could you point me to this “Rule”? Quote some Qu’ran text maybe? Your argument just now had absolutely 0% substance. Stating things that you believe to be true isn’t an argument.

    We would just play the “IS NOT!!!” “IS TOO!!” game if thats how arguments were supposed to be constructed. If I wanted to mimic your strategy in voicing my opinions the below argument would be sufficient.

    “Karmi,

    Violence under Islam IS the exception to the “Rule,” so your “there is no extremist sub-groups of Islam” does not address the fact. Peace and Milk and Cookies and Rainbows are the mainstay of the Koran/Qur’an, i.e. written in its own words. (What words show them to me! There are just as many referenced to living peaceably btw) The Abrahamic Religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are true, and not built upon the ancient religions of Sumer and Egypt (And not Sumerian god Enki and Egyptian god Ptah, primarily). In the modern era, there is no doubt that Islam is the most peaceful of the three…”

    See how silly that sounds to you? I just stated random “facts” with nothing to back it up. Thats the same kind of logic you just used, empty logic. You need to do more that state your beliefs as accepted fact.

    “In the modern era, there is no doubt that Islam is the most violent of the three…”
    And so lets assume you are right about this statement what if Islam happens to be the most violent? Does correlation always prove causation? Of course not!

    Please explain to me why Qatar, which is 77.5% Muslim, is has the 17th highest Global Peace Index score? How is that possible with such a high concentration of predominantly violent people? Oh wait, maybe it has to do with the fact that they have the third highest GDP per capita in the world. Find some real information and it will tell you that a low GDP per capita is has a much higher correlation with violence and conflict than religion does.

    I believe GDP is positively correlated with GPI and GPI is not as correlated with religion, and just backed it up with some data.

    GPI data suggests that the following are more likely indicators of violence in a country: 1. The IMPORTANCE of religion (Not the flavor of religion, again Uganda’s LRA?) 2. GDP per capita 3. Hostility to foreigners/private property and 4. The Electoral process.

  37. Karmi said, on April 15, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    Tim,

    You are trying to defend Islam without even having read the Qur’an, and it shows.

    The Qur’an is filled with verses promoting violence and domination over others. Here are just a few…

    War and violence is good for you:002.216
    YUSUFALI: Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.
    PICKTHAL: Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.
    SHAKIR: Fighting is enjoined on you, and it is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

    Qur’an criticizing the few “peaceful” Muslims: 004.095
    YUSUFALI: Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-
    PICKTHAL: Those of the believers who sit still, other than those who have a (disabling) hurt, are not on an equality with those who strive in the way of Allah with their wealth and lives. Allah hath conferred on those who strive with their wealth and lives a rank above the sedentary. Unto each Allah hath promised good, but He hath bestowed on those who strive a great reward above the sedentary;
    SHAKIR: The holders back from among the believers, not having any injury, and those who strive hard in Allah’s way with their property and their persons are not equal; Allah has made the strivers with their property and their persons to excel the holders back a (high) degree, and to each (class) Allah has promised good; and Allah shall grant to the strivers above the holders back a mighty reward:

    Beheadings are fine with the Qur’an: 008.012
    YUSUFALI: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”
    PICKTHAL: When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.
    SHAKIR: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

    From “The Verse of the Sword”: 009.005
    YUSUFALI: But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
    PICKTHAL: Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
    SHAKIR: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    It’s OK to force Islam upon nonbelievers and to dominate them: 009.029
    YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
    PICKTHAL: Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.
    SHAKIR: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

  38. Tim said, on April 15, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Well, There ya go!

    Theres some substance, something I can read! Thank you! :)

    I tried looking for a Qu’ran, but my library doesn’t have one… Though I did find a few verses online and was surprised at what I found today. The violent verses in the Qur’an do in fact seem more violent than the ones in the Bible.

    This is a significantly stronger argument that you have just presented. I’d would have to agree that these commands are aggressive, and could spark some very poorly guided actions.

    But I do think that people are only driven to such actions in poor environments. The worse off the country is, the more importance people will place on their religion, and the more radical these groups can get.

    I do wonder… what would your rebuttal be to these verses, also in the Qur’an?

    “Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)”

    “But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)”

    “If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. (The Noble Quran, 5:28)”

    “God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)”

    “And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. (The Noble Quran 2:193)”

    “Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)”

    “Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God’s will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them). (The Noble Quran, 15:2-3)”

    “Say, ‘The truth is from your Lord’: Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it):……(The Noble Quran, 18:29)”

    “If it had been thy Lord’s will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then COMPEL mankind, against their will, to believe! (The Noble Quran, 10:99)”

    “Say: ‘Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger’s duty is only to preach the clear (Message). (The Noble Quran, 24:54)”

    “Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine. (The Noble Quran, 109:1-6)”

    The Prophet Prohibited the Killing of Women and Children

    There are so much hadith where the Prophet condemned the killing of innocent women and children during time of war that it is impossible to deny them.

    Saheeh Bukhari

    Volume 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 257.

    Narrated By ‘Abdullah : During some of the Ghazawat of the Prophet a woman was found killed. Allah’s Apostle disapproved the killing of women and children.

    Volume 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 258.

    Narrated By Ibn ‘Umar : During some of the Ghazawat of Allah’s Apostle a woman was found killed, so Allah’s Apostle forbade the killing of women and children.

    Saheeh Muslim

    Book 019, Hadith Number 4319.

    Chapter : Prohibition of killing women and children in war.

    It is narrated on the authority of ‘Abdullah that a woman was found killed in one of the battles fought by the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). He disapproved of the killing of women and children.

    Book 019, Hadith Number 4320.

    Chapter : Prohibition of killing women and children in war.

    It is narrated by Ibn ‘Umar that a woman was found killed in one of these battles; so the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) forbade the killing of women and children.

    Sunan Abu Dawood

    Book 008, Hadith Number 2663.
    ——————————
    Chapter : Not known.

    Narated By Rabah ibn Rabi’ : When we were with the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) on an expedition, he saw some people collected together over something and sent a man and said: See, what are these people collected around? He then came and said: They are round a woman who has been killed. He said: This is not one with whom fighting should have taken place. Khalid ibn al-Walid was in charge of the van; so he sent a man and said: Tell Khalid not to kill a woman or a hired servant.

    Maliks Muwatta

    Book 021, Hadith Number 008.

    Section : Prohibition against Killing Women and Children in Military Expeditions.

    Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab that a son of Kab ibn Malik (Malik believed that ibn Shihab said it was Abd ar-Rahman ibn Kab) said, “The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, forbade those who fought ibn Abi Huqayq (a treacherous jew from Madina) to kill women and children. He said that one of the men fighting had said, ‘The wife of ibn Abi Huqayq began screaming and I repeatedly raised my sword against her. Then I would remember the prohibition of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, so I would stop. Had it not been for that, we would have been rid of her.'”

    Book 021, Hadith Number 009.

    Section : Prohibition against Killing Women and Children in Military Expeditions.

    Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi from Ibn Umar that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, saw the corpse of a woman who had been slain in one of the raids, and he disapproved of it and forbade the killing of women and children.

    Book 021, Hadith Number 010.

    Section : Prohibition against Killing Women and Children in Military Expeditions.

    Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said that Abu Bakr as-Siddiq was sending armies to ash-Sham. He went for a walk with Yazid ibn Abi Sufyan who was the commander of one of the battalions. It is claimed that Yazid said to Abu Bakr, “Will you ride or shall I get down?” Abu Bakrsaid, “I will not ride and you will not get down. I intend these steps of mine to be in the way of Allah.”

    Then Abu Bakr advised Yazid, “You will find a people who claim to have totally given themselves to Allah. Leave them to what they claim to have given themselves. You will find a people who have shaved the middle of their heads, strike what they have shaved with the sword.

    “I advise you ten things| Do not kill women or children or an aged, infirm person. Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees. Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty, and do not be cowardly.”

    Much like the Bible, the Qur’an may be filled with many contradictions… I believe poor social/economic situations can form a disgruntled group of people that might interpret the Qur’an in a darker fashion. This would be my best guess as to why high GDP countries that have a majority of Muslims can retain a high GPI…

  39. Karmi said, on April 15, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    Tim,

    My main rebuttal would be my Abrahamic Religions page, with the above pictures tossed in…

  40. Tim said, on April 18, 2010 at 1:40 am

    Aww man… thats really long…. ill read it after finals…. I’m really frustrated I cant move my ring finger independently of my pinky… >_<

    I read some of the article. It looks interesting.

    Curious what religion, (if any) would you think I pledge allegiance to?

    And are you and atheist/agnostic or something else?

  41. Karmi said, on April 18, 2010 at 10:09 am

    It’s pretty long – the Abrahamic Religions page – and that’s without the Christianity (which is very long and aka “Pauline Christianity”) and Islam portions. I may finish it one of these days, but since non-biblical history clearly disputes biblical history, i.e. there is no non-biblical history of any Hebrews/Israelites until around 1000 BC (and that is questionable), which makes the Torah look like the plagiarized text that it is. Since Christianity and Islam depend on the Torah as “evidence” for their religions, their ‘Foundation Block’ is the weakest evidence possible, and so I am in no big rush to write much about them here. Writing had been going on for over 2,500 years before the earliest recorded Jewish texts ever show up, the Jahwist or “J” around 950 BC.

    What religion “(if any)” do you “pledge allegiance” to? You sound close to an agnostic.

    This quote sums up my view pretty well:

    “Like two golden birds perched on the selfsame tree,
    intimate friends, the ego and the Self dwell in the same body.
    The former eats the sweet and sour fruits of the tree of life,
    while the latter looks on in detachment”. The Mundaka Upanishad

  42. Tim said, on April 19, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    I’m not sure what I believe in really, I’m too young and unwise to really dedicate myself to one path when there are just so many. I try my best to investigate them all. I guess the short answer might be close to an agnostic… but for now I consider myself a Christian, just one that often doubts and wanders. A weak Christian. For now I am in America, a mostly Christian society, in a few months I’ll be in Qatar, which is primarily Muslim, and then I’ll be in Japan come fall, among atheists who perform Shinto ceremonies. I have been an atheist, and an agnostic before in my life. I’m trying to find the way of life the brings out the best in me, and I’ve seen some good people motivated by their religions I guess. So the Upanishads, you are Hindu?

  43. Karmi said, on April 20, 2010 at 9:17 am

    You’ll do good where ever you are. I’m not Hindu, but have found that eastern philosophy like Hinduism and Buddhism are quite open and educational. Early Deism (sorta a western-slant on eastern philosophy) and some of America’s Deist Founding Fathers were influenced by Hinduism and Buddhism. (As you might know by now, I shy away from religions that fight over the Ownership of God, e.g. the Abrahamic Religions.)

  44. Tim said, on April 27, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    Thank you, yes I am interested in eastern philosophies. They seem very…. calm.

  45. HUZAIFA said, on May 7, 2010 at 9:22 am

    listen these talibans are not muslims they are ass holes muslims a peacefull people you must understand ….that these are not miuslims because they do all the things which are forbidden in islam

  46. Karmi said, on May 7, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    HUZAIFA,

    I’m sure there are some good Muslims out there, but a majority of Muslims would consider them to basically be an infidel like me. Islam is a cruel religion that has enslaved people since its inception, and that doesn’t include Islam’s long history of abusing women. The Taliban are just one group of Muslims in a LONG LIST of murdering and terrorizing Muslim/Islamic groups, e.g. here is a very short list: Abu Nidal Organization, Abu Sayyaf, Al-Badr, al-Qa’ida, Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Fatah al-Islam, Hamas, Hezbollah, Aden-Abyan Islamic Army, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Khuddam ul-Islam, Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, Muslim Brotherhood…

  47. unknown said, on May 22, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    Hi everyone ,especially Karimi >>>

    I think u R pure Hundo ” religion .. common in india” ,sence u r puttin that image with ur name ” oomm” , those people are known haters of Islam & muslims !
    & all the suff might be right & might NOT , But that dose not mean that Islam is telling us to do so ,!

    As we all know that , in every religion there are some rules that should be done , but not all people Do so , and this happens every where not just in muslims !
    it also happens in Hundo religion ,krisans ,jwish , ex
    YOU dont have to be soo RUDE & harsh tward muslims ,, our relision does’nt force people like YOU to be muslim…. try to get over this hate in ur heart !!!

    * _ *

  48. Karmi said, on May 22, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    Hi unknown,

    I’m not Hindu or “Hundo” or a practitioner/follower of any religion. God doesn’t need a religion in order to ‘communicate‘ with mankind, and certainly didn’t create one for mankind. Religions are for humans who have lost their natural ability to realize God. The Abrahamic Religions are the worst of all religions, with Islam being the worse of those three, i.e. Islam is the #1 Worst Religion…congrats!

    The Abrahamic Religions want to put God-in-a-Box (e.g. Bible, Koran, Torah), so that they can claim that they OWN the Rights to God. They have been fighting over the Ownership of God for centuries.

    BTW, posting pictures of Muslims practicing Islam isn’t being “RUDE & harsh” … and it’s probably about time that I post some more.

  49. peaceloveunityhope said, on August 27, 2010 at 7:30 am

    islam z a beautiful religion….a set of necessary code…but since u DONT WANT TO realize it no1 can mk u aware of wat u already know…just like in a country u hav laws which u must follow fr they r meant fr ur own gud bt many a times u break them u feel they r futile at times they even frustrate u to a limit unsurpassed but u cant avoid d fact tht they are meant fr ur own gud…results myt not b visible but they exist…just like dat islam carries certain rules wich r to b obeyed fr they r fr our own gud no matter v acknowledge its benefit or not islam will continue serving us n v hav to do our duty which is to protect it frm any kind of false accusation on it like u made…beliv me i no none of the arguments peresnted in favour of islam myt hav left any impact on u bcz u r not openminded…the pics u hav presented dznt show d dark side of islam but ur pessimistic approach towards smthing fr which u hav biased opinion…n its a human nature to criticize wat they dont know so u r also doin the same…i am a muslim girl n m really happy n hav equal ryts as my brother does bt m not supposed to hang arnd late at nyt is it smthing ugly for wich i shud consider myself inferior??????n u talked of burqa…look sir precious things require protection they r not supposed to b viewed by any just layman nor to b touched by all to preserve its beauty and honour…misinterpretation can mk ne1 bad..v r vulnerable to proper brainwash…just like u hate islam those guys in pics are taught to hate ne1 outside islam…but daz not wat islam taught them but sm ppl who out of their personal problems pull in the name of jihad n islam hav taught them…if they knew islam they wud respect the ryts of individuals….

  50. the unknown visitor said, on September 2, 2010 at 10:53 am

    ok heres the thing: they did do it. why? cos they dont allow anybody but really ANYBODY to believe in something else. there isnt something as respect in the islam towards other religions. and indeed it is the number 1 worst religion (and catholics are already quite bad) so yes they did it they did all of it and still doing more.

  51. the unknown visitor said, on September 2, 2010 at 10:58 am

    and im gonna have to say that, whatever religion or whoever does these things, ITS
    HUMANITY! but i must admit that the islam is the worst example you can think of.

  52. Lau Limor said, on September 7, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Hitler was catholic, Bin Laden is Muslim and Goldstein was Jew. Francis of Assis was catholic, Muhammad was muslim and Yechua bar Yosef (Jesus Christ) was jew. Religion is nothing but just a small detail.

  53. Kim said, on September 14, 2010 at 7:59 am

    Religion = Mindless Sheep….. No Scientific Proof, just mindless belief.
    Atheist here…lol
    But it’s NOT a laughing matter, when it comes to so called mother’s deliberately mutilating their daughters, as a Mother of 3 daughters hearing this brought bloody tears to my eyes…

    Give me 5 minutes with these bitches who do this to their babies, & I’ll show them pain.

    Some people stated that this was culture not religion, but isn’t their way of life controlled by religion – so it is in fact their culture!!!!

    TRULY DISGUSTING…

  54. reo said, on November 4, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    Of course there are passages in the Qur’an that promote war against nonbelievers, as is the case with the Christian Bible when speaking of God’s wrath upon the wolves and being armed for war.

    Islam is a religion about love and peace and the spirit of Allah (God). The religions are fundamentally the same. There are extremists who pervert religions for their cause in EVERY society. Remember the Crusades were so-called justified by Christianity.

    So remember, let your mind be slow to judge and your tongue slow to speak.

    Islam is very beautiful.

    (And I shouldn’t have to mention this, but I will. I am a Christian. I have studied Judaism and Islam and both are equally beautiful and all contain the word of God. God bless everyone, especially hateful hearts <3)

    Oh, and to the atheist, scientific evidence points strongly towards the existence of a supernatural creator. Watch "A Case for the Creator" on Youtube if you're interested.

  55. Karmi said, on November 4, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    BTW, reo, the Crusades ended over 7 centuries ago. Islam/Muslims have been at war since Islam was created, and Islam still wages war today. Islam turned slavery into a booming business, and 14 centuries later it still deals in slavery.

    Nothing beautiful about Islam, unless one loves slavery, violence and war.

    Islam is one of the top three Abrahamic Religions, and like Christianity it to is built upon a base of Judaism. God had nothing to do with any of the three, i.e. they are man-made and their scriptures are man-written…from top to bottom. All three fight over the Ownership of God, each claiming that their scriptures are from God.

    Abrahamic Religions

  56. Islam said, on January 3, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    mr. karmi u were there to see this whats the proof that these all are done by muslims?

  57. Karmi said, on January 3, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Islam wants “proof”?!? Would that be “proof” for the beheaded teenage female or the beheaded Nick Berg? Or, are you requesting “proof” that Aisha and/or Zahida were actually disfigured? Only a Liberal or Muslim would ask for “proof”…

  58. so sad said, on January 19, 2011 at 12:21 am

    Hi guys this is soo sad how we are all hating on Islam. Islam is not to de-humanize woman or to keep them in “full body bags” like Karmi likes to point out. I dont know about you but when a guy wants to keep you hidden from the world’s eyes (men’s eyes) and only for his eyes alone, i find that really sweet. It is said in Islam that a women is a precious jewl– and who wouldnt want to protect their jewl. Women in the middle east wear berkas to cover up because counrties like that men are not to look at women. In general when men see’s a women’s beauty they cant help it but get turned on. It’s something men do they would stare at women of beauty, even fantasize about them, and in Islam if a man does that then the women would get the sin of the man who did that. So in order to not get others sin and also to follow the holy Qur’an women cover up and not temp men. Here in this country women are more free to do and wear what they want but we still need to be modest so some do that by chosing to wear the hijab. and some even chose to wear the berka. It is their choice!! I am a new muslim i converted from christianity. my mother is hindu but even she doesnt hate Islam as much as u do Karmi, so all i have to say is i hope one day u see the truth and may god bless you :)

  59. Karmi said, on January 19, 2011 at 8:07 am

    So Sad,

    So sad, indeed! Women are not property…not jewelry, not poultry or cattle…women are humans. Don’t give me that “It is their choice!!” crap either…not being allowed to vote is not a “choice,” forced into degrading “full body bags” is not a “choice,” not being allowed to drive is not a “choice,” not being allowed to get an education is not a “choice,” etc. Islam is about enslaving people or worse…

  60. so sad said, on January 19, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    all i have to say is that u need to really research it indepth and maybe go to a mosque and see for urself what u call “no choice”. bc we have lots of choice u just keep throwing the same thing over and over and over again when there are so many people giving you new proff and different arguments about what Islam is. Stop being so bised and one sided in this day and age i would think people like u would learn that ur negative blind eyed comments makes no difference because millons of pple know the truth. And yes there are thousands of pple each year who convert to Islam like me because of pploe like you. U may think ur promoting a negative light about Islam but all ur doing is making people research it and when we do we see that ur very much in need of help.

  61. Karmi said, on January 20, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Islam at work: Islamists Say Be ‘Cutters of Necks’; Sex With Prepubescent Girls Okay

    The best way to defend against Muslim deception is to get educated. You don’t need to know Arabic—read the Qur’an and find out for yourself what Islam really teaches. Don’t be duped.

  62. Ebaad said, on January 20, 2011 at 11:31 am

    hey karmi, if your gonna post your views allow me to post mine

    dont be immature and delete them.

  63. Karmi said, on January 20, 2011 at 11:47 am

    So far, Ebaad, your posts have been immature, long-winded (AKA – boring), factually inaccurate, and somewhat insulting. Since this is my blog, I am allowed to delete your posts. (BTW, Ebaad, as a Muslim – AKA supporter of Slavery – you are already on my bad side and on the verge of being banned.)

  64. Karmi said, on January 23, 2011 at 9:30 am

    So Sad…here’s more about Islam:

    For Afghan Wives, a Desperate, Fiery Way Out

    ..The choices for Afghan women are extraordinarily restricted: Their family is their fate. There is little chance for education, little choice about whom a woman marries, no choice at all about her role in her own house.

    ..Returned runaways are often shot or stabbed in honor killings because the families fear they have spent time unchaperoned with a man. Women and girls are still stoned to death. Those who burn themselves but survive are often relegated to grinding Cinderella existences while their husbands marry other, untainted women.

    ..Self-immolation is more common in Herat and western Afghanistan than other parts of the country. The area’s closeness to Iran may partly explain why; Iran shares in the culture of suicide by burning.

  65. Anne said, on March 16, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    I’m so sad to see this, why we are so cruel as humans,what kind of God is making guys go and cut the nose of a woman or put acid of their faces or even allow them to married little girls? Do you really believe that all this is becoming from God? for me is just very clear that is coming from a evil mind and Satan is the one who can allow people to do such cruelty.
    I will be ashamed of my religion if they were doing this, even if someone say that no all muslims are like that, a great number are, and they protect themselfs behind their religion if muslims wants to clean their names and religion should be putting those bastards in jail or killing them as example, stop to hurt women and let little girls play with dolls and don’t use them as sex toys. STOP THAT CRAP NOW IN THE NAME OF THE REAL GOD.

  66. Anne said, on March 16, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    To so sad, No one is againts to the Islam, we are againts the way that many of you use the religion to do bad to other humans, the way that many who are professing the Islam are going to married six year old girls as Mohammed did, because you guys are thinking that is right be touching little girls, I don’t believe that Allah said do that. Your prophet was a pedophile and sick man who went to the desert to try to find God but he found Satan and all of you are following something false. You need to open your eyes, is good to be a muslim but be a human too, respect the lifes of others, love others as God does, forgive and speak about peace that is a religion of peace. If you are creating pain you are againts to God if you hurt others and make little children cry, You are just a tool in Satan’s hands.

  67. what r u lookin at said, on April 27, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    yay athiests cya in hell u basterds

  68. tom said, on April 27, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    shut up go away ur making a comment that none cares about

  69. robert said, on April 27, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    hey tom u looking 4 pictures too?

  70. tom said, on April 27, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    ya cool were on the same site at the same time lol well cya tommorow

  71. robert said, on April 27, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    cya

  72. tom said, on April 27, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    i have some info 4 you bye

    From forced child marriages entailing physical and sexual abuse to the public execution of a woman on local council’s orders, from girls burning themselves to death out of despair to impunity for abusers, violence against women in Afghanistan is a dramatic problem that must be addressed now, a top United Nations expert said today.

    “Violence against women remains dramatic in Afghanistan in its intensity and pervasiveness, in public and private spheres of life,” the Special Rapporteur of the UN Commission on Human Rights on Violence against Women, its Causes and Consequences, Yakin Ertürk, told a news briefing in Kabul, the Afghan capital, at the end of a 10-day visit.

    The three and a half years since the fall of the Taliban regime, which repressed women’s rights, have seen considerable change in the legal and institutional framework, but “action has to be taken now to protect women, to save lives,” she added, outlining a list of measures that appear feasible in the short term.

    These include launching media campaigns to inform the public that forced and child marriages violate fundamental precepts of Islam, and clearly establishing the ‘marriage’ of a girl-child as a crime subject to prosecution and punishment.

    Tragic facts:

    •At least 6.5 million people out of a population of between 21 and 26 million are dependent on food aid, and there is a very real risk of famine.
    •Afghanistan has one of the lowest life expectancies in the world – just 44.5 years.
    •A fifth of children die before they reach the age of five.
    •About two million Afghans are now living abroad, most of them in Iran and Pakistan.
    •In Kabul, an estimated 500,000 people are homeless or living in makeshift accommodation.
    •Only 40 per cent of Afghan children are vaccinated against major diseases, and just 25 per cent of the population has access to safe drinking water and adequate sanitation. There is just one doctor per 6,000 people, and one nurse per 2,500 people.
    •Some 72,000 new cases of tuberculosis are reported every year. Women account for most TB deaths.
    •Up to 100 people are killed or wounded by mines and unexploded ordnance every month
    •Every year an estimated 400,000 Afghans are affected by natural disasters.
    •Less then 6% of Afghans have access to electricity, that too partly.
    AlertNet, June 20, 2005Police and prosecutor’s offices must not return girls and women who escape domestic violence to their families unless their safety can really be ensured, safe havens for women at risk must be created and strengthened and donor support for Afghanistan should be linked to human rights and the protection of women, she added.

    “The present time constitutes a unique window of opportunity that should not be missed,” she declared.

    Most people she spoke to pointed to forced and child marriages as the primary source of violence against women, Ms. Ertürk said. “In addition to being in themselves serious forms of violence, forced and child marriages in combination with polygamy considerably increase the likelihood that women will be subjected to violence within the family, including sexual violence by significantly older males,” she added.

    She cited “one very dramatic example which affected me tremendously” of an eight-year-old girl, now under protection, who was sold by her mother at age six for marriage although neither Civil Law nor Islamic Sharia can accept that a six-year-old girl is marriageable.

    “This girl and others like her that I have talked to, who were not lucky enough to end up in a protective area, are abused physically as well as sexually. Not only by the designated husband, but until the designated husband grows up, other males in the family may abuse her,” she said. “I was just told at a Government meeting a while ago that girls are married off to families who in turn use them to sell their blood, or use them as prostitutes,” she added.

    “In only an exceedingly small fraction of cases will any sanction be imposed on the perpetrators of domestic violence,” she noted, adding that many women have no alternative but to endure such violence since unaccompanied women have no place in the public space and are automatically suspected of being engaged in sexual offences.

    “Once a girl or women has spent a night away from family control, this might constitute a dead end in her life. The stigma attached thereto often makes her return impossible, as she is either refused or accepted only to face punishment, often death.”

    She referred to the case of a woman called Ameena who was stoned or beaten to death because of a “fatwa by the local authorities for her murder.”

    “The violence has to come to an end. There is no reason under the sun that can legitimize any of these acts, if the Government is going to gain legitimacy and credibility it has to find ways of dealing with these issues,” she said.

    She also cited cases of self-immolation in the town of Herat. “These girls are burning themselves to death because they have no other option in life to escape violence,” she declared. “They are committing suicide in order to escape a life full of violence, not only from their husbands or fathers, but sometimes even by mothers-in-law, surprisingly. So being women does not free one from exercising violence unfortunately.”

  73. sam said, on May 11, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    is this all true

  74. Raewita LemPiCka said, on June 20, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Dear people who saw this,
    This all can be true. Such things can really happen. Those terrorists thinking they are “muslims” are very irrational retarded people, but i want to make a fact clearer to everyone: Islam has lots of conditions, and none of these conditions include such a terrible behaviour. It is clearly stated in islam that terrorists are NOT ACCEPTED in islam, and they are NOT and will NEVER be muslims unless they reconsider their actions, realise they r wrong, and decide they will NEVER EVER repeat this bad behaviour.

    SO IM TELLING EVERYONE, THE ONLY THING U CAN BLAME IN SUCH SITUATIONS IS THE PERSON HIMSELF NOT THE RELIGION, BECAUSE THE RELIGION NEVER ACCEPTS ANY BAD BEHAVIOUR.
    THEREFORE, IF U HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT ANY RELIGION NOT JUST ISLAM, U SHOULD CONSIDER READING ABOUT THE RELIGION. ( IT IS AN IMPROPER THING TO JUDGE GENERALLY ABOUT PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE YOU SAW A FEW OF THEM DO SOMETHING WRONG.)

    Im christian, and i used to think that muslims are bad people, but GUESS WHAT?? my best friend is a muslim. We have been together for 13 years right now, and she is the most amazing and behaving person ive ever met. Islam seemed to me as a strict religion at first, but now i know that islam is a very wise religion that guides people to the right ways of life.
    AND BY THE WAY, ALSO ISLAM FOCUSES ALOT ON EDUCATION AND BEHAVIOURS, ALLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOT.

    it depends on the people, some use it and understand it properly ( which end up to be very succesful people), while others dont.
    AND my best friend confesses that most people understand islam in the wrong way ( they do lots of bad things that break the rules and conditions of islam, and eventually call themselves muslims when they are actually not muslims because they broke the rules.)
    SOOOO U HAVE NO RIGHT TO BLAME THE RELIGION, BUT U HAVE THE RIGHT TO BLAME THE PEOPLE!! xD

  75. Raewita LemPiCka said, on June 20, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    BTW,
    CULTURE HAS A GREAT EFFECT ON THESE THINGS AND ALOT OF THINGS CONTAINED WITHIN these arabic cultures are definitely forbidden in islam. ITS ALL ABOUT THE WAY PEOPLE USE THIS RELIGION BUT U CANT SAY ALL MUSLIMS ARE BAD BECAUSE A FEW ARE.
    I MEAN IF I SEE A CHRISTIAN OR JEWISH OR WHATEVER DOIN SOMETHING BAD, THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY ARE ALL BAD.
    AND SITUATIONS LIKE RAPE AND ABUSE AND STUFF LIKE THAT HAPPENS ALL AROUND THE WORLD AND IN LOTS OF RELIGIONS BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT ITS THE RELIGIONS FAULT.
    AND I AGREE THAT ALOT OF PEOPLE CALLING THEMSELVES ” MUSLIMS” ARE MISUSING THIS RELIGION, BUT MUSLIM COUNTRIES AND MUSLIM SCIENTISTS ( IN RELIGION) ARE TRYING THEIR BEST TO EXPLAIN THE REAL CONDITIONS AND RULES OF BEING A MUSLIM!! xD
    REMEMBER, THIS CAN BE CONSIDERED AS RAICISM AND BAD THINGS HAPPEN EVERYWHERE!

    Peace to everyone,
    be friendly with humanity. ;D

  76. Karmi said, on June 20, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Raewita LemPiCka,

    In most Muslim countries, you would be beheaded for what you wrote here…you still may, if they catch you.

    PS. They would also execute – probably by stoning – your Muslim girlfriend.

  77. anne said, on July 14, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    a lot of this stuff is not islam but it is just interpreted that way. one of my best friends is muslim and he is one of the sweetest guys i know who would feel sick and probably cry at the sight of those events. it is not muslims who do these kinds o things because many arabs are catholic too and would still do it. it is in the ways of the culture and the country they are from not the religion. the arabs born in those countries are the ones who do those kinds of things, not the ones born and raised here. it is still sick and i am not defending it in any way. i dont particularly like the muslim culture however i dont agree that islam is what made the men do those things to the women. the hatred inside them and the male dominance is something they are born with and something they have seen their whole lives. if you actually read the quran it doesnt say a thing about being able to punish your wives so brutally. blame the culture not the religion

  78. muslim said, on August 10, 2011 at 12:00 am

    You see, Islam is the arabic word for PEACE……>>>

  79. Rex Desauza said, on September 27, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Something for you Karmi

    People like you had already been defined in quran
    (The Pagans), leaving Him, call but upon female deities: They call but upon Satan the persistent rebel! God did curse him, but he said: “I will take of Thy servants a portion marked off; I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires; I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and to deface the (fair) nature created by God.” Whoever, forsaking God, takes Satan for a friend, hath of a surety suffered a loss that is manifest. Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but Satan’s promises are nothing but deception. (4: 117–20)
    He said: “Because thou hast thrown me out of the way, lo! I will lie in wait for them on thy straight way: Then will I assault them from before them and behind them, from their right and their left: Nor wilt thou find, in most of them, gratitude (for thy mercies).” (God) said: “Get out from this, disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee – Hell will I fill with you all.” (7: 16–18)

    by tk care

  80. Caesar said, on January 31, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    Im with the majority of ppl commenting here…you just keep saying: look in newspapers, type it down ..things like that. i have one word for this: MISINFORMATION

  81. Scarlet said, on March 7, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    mutilating an innocent human being is a horrendous crime that should be punished by the same means, no one should be doing anything so horrific to another living beings genitals or anything else for that matter!! now onto the religion…. Humans, once upon a time lived simple lives and felt blessed by each new dawning day, with evolution came the desire to feel important and the need to explain certain events which soon became stories of the forces behind the weather, day and night etc….. these became the stories before the truth, probably began by being told to children to warn them not to displease the ‘God/s’ but to live good lives and to behave well towards others, to quote ‘through a child’s eyes mother is God’…. the story of Santa Claus is used very similarly even to this day. Some people in societies quickly realised that these fears of the ‘God/s’ could easily be manipulated in many different ways to CONTROL society with its lies to bend to whoever’s will and for many centuries it prevailed and controlled, manipulated and mutilated, abused and took advantage.

    Then people got smarter and started asking questions that could not fully be explained by ‘religions’ and slowly many people woke up and realised that in such a vast universe why do humans who once believed that the sun revolved around earth still believe that the universe revolves around them as the most central and important being with no actual knowledge of what else exists elsewhere in undiscovered space. In actual fact as a whole the human race is nothing but a tidal wave of destruction, created by evolution and destroyed by itself.

    There is little beauty left in this world because ‘people’ fight for wealth and power leaving a trail of destruction, the horrors that happen in this world show us each and every day that all we have is each other as we rotate alone on a rock and that there is no higher power coming to save any of us, yet still the word ‘God’ plays a part and in most cases of near death even the most hardened atheist is likely to begin praying because of how deeply imprinted the stories and images and the hope that we are not alone. IF there was an all loving and forgiving higher force which observed the horrendous crimes against nature and all Earth’s creatures that have happened since only knows when, then it simply wouldn’t be allowed to happen and yet is explained away by ‘free will’.

    Humans are far from ‘important’ in reality or through the eyes of a ‘higher power’, we are simply animals that evolved beyond just survival and gained the desire to not only exist but to live, but that came with the problem of the still embedded animal instinct to compete for affection/admiration which as you can see from all around you has gotten completely out of control.

    Humans are not even the most important part of this planet, nature is, the smallest bacteria’s and insects, the wildlife and the weather amongst many others are the factors that the planet would struggle to survive without, and yet if all the humans were to disappear overnight the world would simply begin to flourish again without the global destruction or depletion of natural resources or pollutions.

    Its funny how many religious people consider themselves to have ‘souls’ and yet dismiss that of an animal or an insect….

    The actual truth is this world will end one day, be it by nuclear war, the magnetic poles shifting, radiation from a near-by imploding star or the death of our sun, and all of this horror and suffering that happens will have been for nothing and the universe will quickly forget its existence.

    Its time to wake up but of course many of you simply don’t want to because no one likes to admit when they are wrong, and would rather continue a charade then stop and say enough is enough!!! you get one life!! so why do so many insist that others must live in fear and pain, when the only thing that can STOP the atrocities is the same thing causing it.

  82. Scarlet said, on March 7, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    http://www.letusreason.org/islam12.htm

    This website fully explains the true colours of the Qur’an and many of its dedicated followers practise what it preaches in belief of its false promises…. especially the part about the everlasting 72 virgins, only a fool would believe the promise of physical sexual pleasure with no body to perform it with…. tell me, what do they promise the females? that their genitals will be un-mutilated??

  83. Siddid Srivastava said, on July 29, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Coming across your website without exception made my day.
    You have no idea.

  84. Wartzba said, on October 23, 2012 at 3:03 am

    Dear Mr. Karmi,
    After reading your article I just wanted to illicit some facts, beliefs, and ideas from my point of view. Now first off, I 100% agree with you that the Taliban are all malicious in their ideals and actions. They’re an accurate reflection of how flawed fundamentalism is in modern times, and how certain practices, rituals, traditions, and prerequisites of particular religions from many centuries ago (created within the context of those times) should no longer be practiced today. But what I don’t understand is that you talk as if all Islamists are malevolent like the Taliban. According to recent recordings (from 2010) there only 36,000 agents of the Taliban, and there’s approximately 2.1 Billion Muslims in the world. Other research shows that only 6% of Muslims are extremists. Throughout my life I’ve meet manyMuslims living in America, and they’re like any other Americans. They work hard, love America, advocate for equality, and most importantly, disagree with the Taliban’s ideology. And, I’m about to ask a rhetorical question here, but have you even met a Muslim? Also have you heard of the Sufis? They’re a large sect of Islam that advocate for peace and spirituality. I had the privilege of witnessing Sufi rituals during a vacation I took to Turkey, and they welcomed me with open arms, despite being what you referred to as an ” infidel”. So with this overwhelming amount of evidence I just disproved your argument, but I’m not done.

    Islam is not the only religion with it’s radical and obsolete traditions and militant worshippers. Christianity, for example, has many absurd ideals. Like the qua-ran, the bible Promotes slavery, “However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.  You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.  You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.  You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.”  (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT). It also promotes violence towards those who don’t practice Christianity,”Anyone who shows contempt for the judge or for the priest who stands ministering there to the Lord your God is to be put to death. You must purge the evil from Israel” (Deuteronomy 17:12). Christians have its followers that have committed acts justas bad, maybe even more so, than terrorists. During the crusades between 15,000-25,000 people were killed. Adolf Hitler, a vehement Christian, used his faith as a pretext to exterminate Jews and other faiths and races he deemed inferior. Timothy Mcveigh, a christian as well, perpetrated the Oklahoma city bombings, listed with alongside Islamic acts of Terror. KKK, promotes Christianity and violence against different races and religions. Joseph kony, leader of the Lords Resistance Army. Him and his followers ambitions are to establish a Christian theocracy in Uganda through rebellion. Through their seditious actions they have perpetrated mass-murder, abduction, child-sex slavery, mutilation, and forcing children to fight in their army.

    If we apply your logic this evidence then this makes Christians as evils as Muslims in your eyes. Fortunately though most Christians, like most Muslims, don’t observe every tradition or requirement of their Religion. Why you may ask, because nearly all Muslims and Christians realize that ideals from hundreds of years ago aren’t applicable to are rapidly changing society. In ancient times, when societies started to become more complex, Religions began to adapt in order to survive, attempting to reflect their societies. Those that didn’t adapt got eclipsed by the ones that changed. This is happening today as well. Most Muslims are beginning to adapt to modern times, but theres a conservative minority militantly attempting to resist this change. This minority is present in Christianity as well. You can’t judge an entire population of 2.1 billion people based of the actions of the 6%. I don’t see you persecuting Christians because they have a radical minority, just like Islam. The only reason many people focus on this minority of Muslims is because the media talks about them the most. If the media payed more attention to the 94% of Muslims, then I’m sure your opinion would be a lot different. In the end it’s insular people like you posting provincial articles like these that make things worse for everyone. I suggest if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say it at all.

    Thank you for reading, sorry for it being so long. I hope it’s been enlightening reading about my beliefs and experiences in this big crazy world.
    Peace and Love my friend, Wartzba.

    P.S. If you’re wondering what my religious background is, I’m a Protestant attending The United Church of Christ.

  85. Karmi said, on October 23, 2012 at 5:42 am

    Wartzba,

    2.1 Billion Muslims didn’t just murder our Ambassador and 3 (?) other Americans whilst destroying some of our embassies, the Taliban didn’t either, but some Muslims did. BTW, Islam still practices slavery, but Christianity doesn’t and never did. The quotes you are using are from the Old Testament, so they fall under Judaism. By following Islam, ALL American Muslims support slavery, which makes them slavers – Louis Farrakhan Muhammad, Sr. included.

    The Abrahamic Religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) have been fighting over the ‘Ownership of God’ for centuries, but none have been as violent as Islam’s followers for the past 4-5 decades or so. Read my page/posts on the Abrahamic Religions and you’ll find I don’t support any of them. Islam is the worse, just look at what goes on even today with wars, Honor Killings, women treated as cattle, be-headings, etcetera etcetera etcetera.

  86. melinda said, on April 11, 2015 at 11:18 am

    tha is to islam ! and islam is evil !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I use to date one an tha is so true

  87. Abdullah Amin AL-zughaier said, on March 23, 2016 at 12:22 am

    Surely those are the misguided ones. The ones who misinterpret the Holy Quran. In the holy Quran, it is forbidden to kill unless obligated or of need to. Hi I’m a sunni Muslim. The most peaceful branch of Islam. (The original first before ingnerent people wanted to turn the word peace to violance). Those are sick minded people. May Allah give them what they deserve for killing the innocent.(Punishment,for Allah is the greatest punisher as well as every thing good and bad) People writing these things are not to blame for,It’s the misconcepted ones who bring discrace to the word Islam.Embarresment and danger to Islam.-Asalamualaykum

  88. Abdullah Amin AL-zughaier said, on March 23, 2016 at 12:23 am

    Surely those are the misguided ones. The ones who misinterpret the Holy Quran. In the holy Quran, it is forbidden to kill unless obligated or of need to. Hi I’m a sunni Muslim. The most peaceful branch of Islam. (The original first before ingnerent people wanted to turn the word peace to violance). Those are sick minded people. May Allah give them what they deserve for killing the innocent.(Punishment,for Allah is the greatest punisher as well as every thing good and bad) People writing these things are not to blame for,It’s the misconcepted ones who bring discrace to the word Islam.Embarresment and danger to Islam.-Asalamualaykum.

  89. Karmi said, on March 23, 2016 at 7:11 am

    Abdullah Amin AL-zughaier … May Allah give them what they deserve for killing the innocent.(Punishment,for Allah is the greatest punisher as well as every thing good and bad). That sorta sounds good…sorta. Problem is, the Abrahamic Religions (which include Islam) all falsely claim that “God gave them” their religious scriptures (which in their ignorant minds gives them FULL Ownership of God or “God in a Box”) – as if God is some-kind of idiot that gives out God Authorized and Approved religious scriptures to any human who applies. BTW, God doesn’t go around punishing humans .. Karma does that.

    Read my Abrahamic Religions under The Pages sections. I never finished it because after doing the Judaism part (which Christianity and Islam are based on) it became clear that all Abrahamic Religions are nothing more than a hoax – based on plagiarism, lies, etc.

    A reminder and Karmic Tip, in closing – GOD can’t be OWNED!!! – anyone or any religion claiming Ownership of God is a false prophet or false religion…simple as that.

  90. Az gal said, on July 10, 2017 at 1:21 am

    Mohammad was a Warlord. Allah is Satan. Muslums are a scourge on the world….


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